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Dolly Chugh and the Quiet Work of Fighting Bias From Inside the Room

A social psychologist at NYU Stern traces how good intentions collide with invisible psychological barriers and why the gap between who we mean to be and how we actually behave is where the real work begins.

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What is bounded ethicality?
Bounded ethicality is Dolly Chugh's term for the automatic psychological processes that cause well-meaning people to behave in ways that fall short of their own ethical standards. It describes the gap between who we intend to be and how we actually act a gap that operates unconsciously and is therefore difficult to close through intention alone.
What books has Dolly Chugh written?
Chugh has written two books. The first, 'The Person You Mean to Be: How Good People Fight Bias' (HarperCollins, 2018), focuses on individual and interpersonal bias and the bounded ethicality framework. The second, 'A More Just Future: Psychological Tools for Reckoning with Our Past and Driving Social Change' (Simon & Schuster, 2022), expands the lens to systemic and historical injustice and the tools for reckoning with past harms while driving change.
What is the 'believer vs. builder' distinction?
In Chugh's framework, a believer defines themselves by their values and experiences falling short as a threat to their identity. A builder defines themselves by their process and treats every instance of falling short as data for improvement. The shift from believer to builder creates psychological room for sustained growth in the direction of one's stated values.
What does the research say about hiring shortlists?
A 2021 study published in Nature Human Behavior, co-authored by Chugh, found that simply lengthening a hiring shortlist can increase consideration of female candidates in male-dominant fields. The finding demonstrates that structural changes in evaluation processes can reduce the influence of implicit bias without requiring evaluators to become different people.
Where can I learn more about Chugh's research and public speaking?
Chugh's publications, media appearances, and speaking information are available through her own site at dollychugh.com, her NYU Stern faculty profile, and the Stanford VMware Women's Leadership Innovation Lab. Her TED Talk on bounded ethicality is publicly available and has been viewed nearly 5 million times.

The Room That Changed Everything

There is a moment that many women in leadership recognize before they can name it: the scan of a conference table, a boardroom, a project team, and the quiet realization that they are the only one who looks like they do. In June 2019, Dolly Chugh wrote about this in The New York Times under the headline 'What to Do When You're the Only Woman in the Room.' The piece was not a complaint. It was an excavation an attempt to understand why the room looked the way it did, and what the solitude inside it actually costs.

Chugh is a social psychologist and management professor at the New York University Stern School of Business, where she has taught MBA courses in leadership and management since joining in 2006. She holds the Jacob B. Melnick Term Professorship and serves as Faculty Director of the Leadership Accelerator. Her teaching has earned her two of NYU's most distinguished recognitions: she was one of six professors chosen from thousands at the university to receive the Distinguished Teaching Award in 2020, and one of five to receive the Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Faculty Award in 2013. These are not honors given for celebrity or publication volume alone. They are peer-reviewed acknowledgments of a professor whose students describe the experience as genuinely transformative.

But the work that draws people to Chugh's door across industries, sectors, and levels of seniority is not primarily about teaching in a classroom. It is about a single, uncomfortable question that she has spent two decades pressing into: if so many of us believe we are good people, why does bias persist?

The Psychology of Good-Ish People

Chugh's research focuses on what she calls bounded ethicality. She describes it on her own site and across her publications as the 'psychology of good people' or, more precisely, the psychology of people who believe themselves to be good and yet consistently fall short of their own ethical standards in ways they do not intend and often cannot see. The concept names a gap that most of us would rather not examine: the space between who we mean to be and how we actually behave.

'The idea that we can be perfectly ethical and unbiased all of the time, as we imagine ourselves to be, is a myth,' Chugh writes on the Ethical Systems site. 'It is a unicorn-like idea. It is a beautiful and elegant notion, and we wish it were real, but it doesn't exist outside of our own imaginations.'

This is not nihilism. It is a clinical observation backed by a body of research published in leading psychology, economics, and management journals. Chugh has been named an SPSP Fellow, received the Academy of Management Journal Best Paper award, and been named one of the top 100 Most Influ Influential People in Business Ethics by Ethisphere Magazine. Her work has been cited by many books and authors. But what makes her framework unusual in the DEI landscape is what she does with the observation once she has made it.

Rather than treating bounded ethicality as a reason for despair or a weapon for blame, Chugh frames it as a reason for strategy. If the gap between intention and behavior is automatic and unconscious, then closing it requires more than good intentions. It requires structure, accountability, and a willingness to grow in the direction of one's own stated values.

The Either/Or Trap

At the center of Chugh's public-facing work is a question she has returned to again and again: why is the domain of ethics and bias the only place where we refuse to give ourselves room to grow? In every other part of our lives fitness, cooking, professional skill we understand that improvement is a process. We do not expect to wake up as a marathon runner or a fluent speaker of a new language overnight. We accept that growth takes repetition, failure, and adjustment.

But in ethics, Chugh argues, we operate with an 'either/or' definition. Either you are a good person or you are not. There is no third option no acknowledgment that you might be someone who holds egalitarian values and yet, in specific moments, under specific conditions, falls short of them. And in that either/or definition, there is no room to grow.

'What if I told you that our attachment to being good people is getting in the way of us being better people?' Dolly asks in her TED Talk. 'We have this definition of good person that's either/or. Either you are a good person or you're not. And in this either/or definition, there's no room to grow. In every other part of our lives, we give ourselves room to grow... except in this one, where it matters most.'

Her TED Talk on these concepts was named one of the 25 Most Popular TED Talks of 2018 and currently has almost 5 million views. The talk, delivered at TED@BCG in October 2018 at the Princess of Wales Theatre in Toronto, Canada, distills years of research into an eight-minute invitation to let go of the identity of 'good person' and pick up the skills of a builder.

'The person I mean to be stands up for equality, equity, and diversity and inclusion,' Chugh admits in the talk. 'The person I mean to be fights bias. Sometimes, I do. Sometimes, I don't. As a believer in these values, I need to do better. The research is there to help us move from having the identity of a believer to the skills of a builder, someone prepared for the necessary growing and grappling involved in driving change.'

What the Research Actually Shows

Chugh's academic publications span a range of contexts from laboratory experiments to field studies in organizational settings but they share a consistent thread: identifying specific, small-scale interventions that can shift outcomes without requiring people to become different kinds of humans overnight.

One of her most-cited findings, published in 2021 in Nature Human Behavior, demonstrates that lengthening a hiring shortlist can meaningfully increase consideration of female candidates in male-dominant fields. The research, co-authored with B. Lucas, Z. Berry, and L. Giurge, showed that a longer shortlist changes the cognitive load and social dynamics of evaluation in ways that reduce the influence of implicit bias. This finding was also covered in Harvard Business Review under the headline 'To Reduce Gender Bias in Hiring, Make Your Shortlist Longer.'

Another significant publication, appearing in the Academy of Management Journal in 2019, examined diversity thresholds how social norms, visibility, and scrutiny relate to group composition. Co-authored with E. Chang, K. Milkman, and M. Akinola, the paper explores the conditions under which organizations reach and sustain meaningful levels of representation rather than superficial diversity numbers.

Prior to her academic career, Chugh worked for 11 years in the corporate world. This background shapes how she communicates research: she is not primarily interested in publishing for other academics. She is interested in producing findings that leaders and managers can use findings that translate into meetings, hiring pipelines, team dynamics, and the everyday decisions that compound into organizational culture.

The Two Books and What They Map

Chugh's two books represent two phases of a single intellectual project. The first, The Person You Mean to Be: How Good People Fight Bias, published by HarperCollins in 2018, is the more widely known of the two. It has received praise from Adam Grant, Angela Lee Duckworth, Liz Wiseman, Billie Jean King, and Kenji Yoshino, among others. It has been covered on the TODAY Show, in The Wall Street Journal, and across a range of business and leadership outlets. The Stern Strategy Group, in a 2022 overview of her work, described the book as exploring 'surprising concepts that hold organizations back from achieving success.'

The book's argument is built around the bounded ethicality framework: that good people are not immune to bias, that their bias operates automatically and often invisibly, and that the first step toward fighting it is to stop defining oneself as someone who simply would not engage in it. The 'good-ish' identity acknowledging that you are someone who cares about justice and yet sometimes falls short is not a retreat. It is a platform for action.

The second book, A More Just Future: Psychological Tools for Reckoning with Our Past and Driving Social Change, published by Simon & Schuster in 2022, widens the lens. Where the first book focuses on individual and interpersonal bias, the second book takes on systemic and historical injustice. It asks how individuals and organizations can engage with past harms colonial legacies, structural racism, institutional histories without being paralyzed by guilt or consumed by abstraction. The book was featured in The Wall Street Journal in December 2022 and was selected as a Next Big Idea Club must-read.

Taken together, the two books trace a pathway from personal introspection to collective reckoning, from the psychology of the individual to the architecture of change. Both are grounded in research but written for a general professional audience. Neither is a self-help manual. Both are, in their different ways, invitations to do difficult work with clearer eyes.

Why This Matters for NiftyWebs Readers

Readers researching leadership, organizational culture, and the mechanics of change will find in Chugh's work a rare combination: academic rigor applied to practical problems, and a communication style that respects the intelligence of the people it addresses. The bounded ethicality framework is not a soft concept. It is a precise description of a cognitive mechanism one that has been replicated across multiple studies and applied across contexts from academic hiring to corporate promotion pipelines.

For leaders who are tired of DEI frameworks that ask them to feel guilty or to perform virtue, Chugh offers something different: a structural approach. She is less interested in changing people's hearts than in changing the conditions under which people's existing values can actually translate into behavior. This is a useful distinction for anyone building hiring processes, designing team structures, or trying to understand why a well-intentioned diversity initiative is not producing the outcomes it promised.

The research on shortlist length is particularly relevant for organizations reviewing their talent pipelines. The finding that a simple procedural change can reduce the influence of implicit bias without requiring evaluators to become different people is the kind of insight that leaders can act on immediately. It does not require a cultural transformation first. It is a structural intervention that creates the conditions for better decisions.

Teaching as a Form of Advocacy

Chugh's classroom work at NYU Stern is consistently described as transformational by students. Her top-rated classes on leadership, management, and negotiation strategies are cited in her official faculty profile as having a 'transformational effect on students and executives alike.' She is noted for her teaching and facilitation skills, which she brings not only to the MBA classroom but to executive education programs, conference stages, and corporate workshops.

Her interactive presentations and fireside chats, as described by the Stern Strategy Group, illustrate 'clear, actionable techniques for leaders interested in listening with intent, increasing accountability and raising inclusivity.' This is not a soft-sell approach. It is a research-backed one, grounded in the same bounded ethicality framework that animates her academic publications.

Chugh is also affiliated with the VMware Women's Leadership Innovation Lab at Stanford University, where her profile describes her work as exploring 'the role of automatic psychological processes that act as barriers to a more egalitarian and inclusive society.' The Stanford lab's resources including tools for diagnosing bias, assessing performance, and redesigning work reflect the practical orientation of Chugh's broader body of work.

What the Framework Offers That Awareness Alone Cannot

One of the persistent limitations of diversity and inclusion training is its reliance on awareness as the primary mechanism of change. If people simply understand bias better, the logic goes, they will behave differently. Chugh's research suggests this assumption is incomplete at best. Awareness of bias does not automatically override the automatic processes that produce it. The gap between knowing and doing is itself a product of bounded ethicality.

What Chugh offers instead is a builder's toolkit. The goal is not to become a perfect person who no longer harbors bias. The goal is to build systems, habits, and structures that make it easier to act on one's stated values and harder for automatic bias to operate unchecked. This is a more honest and ultimately more effective framing for the people who hold it and for the organizations that depend on them.

The distinction between believer and builder is not semantic. It is a shift in identity that creates behavioral room. A believer defines themselves by their values and then experiences every instance of falling short as a threat to that identity. A builder defines themselves by their process and treats every instance of falling short as data. The builder is not more virtuous. The builder is more capable of sustained improvement.

Where to Read Further

Chugh's own site at dollychugh.com/publications maintains a full list of her academic publications, popular press writing, and media appearances, organized by topic and date. The site includes her two books, contact information, and links to her newsletter.

Her NYU Stern faculty profile at NYU Stern's faculty directory provides institutional context, her current courses, and her role as Faculty Director of the Leadership Accelerator.

The Ethical Systems site at Ethical Systems' interview with Chugh offers an extended articulation of the bounded ethicality framework in her own words, including her description of the gap between imagined and actual ethicality as a 'unicorn-like idea.'

Her TED Talk, available through the TED platform, remains one of the most accessible entry points to her core argument. The talk has been viewed nearly 5 million times and was named one of the 25 Most Popular TED Talks of 2018.

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